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 Is a ceramic coated exhaust worth the extra expense?
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odyssey704

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I'm looking at replacing my stock exhaust and have a few questions.  I want something with a nice throaty sound, but not a stinger scream.  Any suggestions with reasons why you like your exhaust would be great.  Also, is the added expense of ceramic coating worth the money? 

I have a '76 Super, so any exhaust that uses the dual apron cutouts is out of the running.  The motor has been converted to carb before I purchased the car, but I still have the original apron with the one cutout. 

I'll be removing my heater boxes and shelving them to switch to j-tubes.

I've been considering a hide-a-way system.  I look forward to everyones advice.


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Actually I kind of like the stock exhaust that came with my 76. It doesn't have the sound of the older pea shooters. Mine is a non-cat exhaust and I converted the heater boxs to run a carb setup. It sounds like the single hide-a-way system is going to be the one you want but there are others out there. As far as the ceramic coating... Boy I just don't know. Up here where I live I don't think it would be worth the money. Way to much salt left on the roads from winter, but down south I would definitely think about factoring it in to my budget.

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I've got the stock FI exhaust on there now.  It's a bit rusted out and needs to be replaced.  How did you convert your exhaust for the carb setup?  I just bought my Super Vert a few months ago.  They left one heat riser on the manifold, but it isn't connected to anything.  They cut the other side off.  My concern with that setup is that if the fan is drawing air up from under the car into the engine compartment through the heat risers:  a) obviously it's hot air b) carbon monoxide poisoning when the heat is on. 

Do you have any pics of your setup? 

I have a Solex 34 carb on the manifold with the one heat riser cut off, the other open at the usual mount point.  Vacuum advance distributor.  Stock FI exhaust with the filter dewhicky on the left side removed.  Stock FI heater boxes.  Original engine (164,000 miles and will probably need a rebuild soon). 

May be best just to go with the original style muffler...Hmmmmmm


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Sorry no pics. The car is in pieces right now as I am changing floor pans, heater channels and replacing the 3" lift kit. On my car the P/O had swapped the engine out to a 74, but it was one that had a VW re-man case.(no sn#) I was lucky that he got the car IM'ed this way during the first years for IM's in the Municipality of Anchorage. This made it where I can legally license the car for year around use with this engine. The engine came with stock heater boxes and a header for a 74 but I had a salvage engine from a 76 vert that had an engine fire, it had heater boxes and exhaust on it. What I did to convert the FI exhaust to carb was to take the little flanges for the carb heat on the header cut them off and then weld them to the pipes that run from the rear exhaust ports toward the front of the motor. Just bolt them to the carb manifold to hold them in place. Make SURE that you attach your welder ground to the exhaust pipe as close as you can to where you will be welding, then tack weld them in place. take the pipes loose and off, then weld them up so you have no leaks. Then take a drill bit and drill down through the hole in the flange in to the exhaust pipe so exhaust will flow through. Make one hold larger than the other as this helps flow. I use BBQ black paint on my exhausts and I normally remove and paint them about every two years. If they have any rust I use a wire brush first and then spray them. I have been doing this since the early 90's and haven't had to buy a new exhaust yet. Once the snow goes from around my storage shed(still about 3') I will start dragging out parts to reassemble the car so I will try to take some pictures then and post them. It's a little farther along than this picture but it's the latest one I have taken of the car itself.
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What's your budget? Merged with a nice ceramic coated phatboy or the like's always nice. Good tone, and tucks out of the way.

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A-1 Sidewinder with hideaway muffler, Pricey but well worth it. Sounds amazing too!


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I would rather not spend over $400 at this point.  I'm really looking for value for the money.  I'll check out all the recommendations.  I appreciate the responses.

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my answer is yes and no, my older brother bought an empi 1 5/8th merged ceramic header and stinger , for his dune buggy , the car sits more than it is drivven, and rust is forming in spots all over the system. i had a good tri-mil ceramic coated euro muffler for 2 years and never showed any rust.
if you want quality you got to go good .


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It depends on 'who' does the coating.  I'm sure an EMPI ceramic coated system is no where near the same quality as one done by HPC or JetHot.  My Kymco header is so-so, the coating cost an extra $100 and it's got some discoloration, but no real rust.  Chances are it'll polish out if I really wanted to.  Cheap coating will cost less than that and good coatings will run $150-$200 for complete systems.
Worth it???  Definatley.  It keeps the heat in the header and away from the engine.  If you run a full flow oil system that means easier hose routing since you can go right past the header.  It also keeps heat off the rear apron protecting your paint.  Likewise it keeps the j-tubes from radiating excess heat back into the heads where they pass under them.  --Ryan
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I have always gone with a header and simple quiet pack attached.  Not fancy but does the job provides slightly better horses and in my humble opinion sounds better than the stock exhaust.  Did I also mention cost friendly

And I have owned several Super Beetles

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