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I am the original owner of a 1973 Super Beetle with 54,654.0 original miles.  The car was kept in a heated garage wile I was on active duty in the Navy for 25+ years.
I replaced the battery, changed the oil and put 1 gal of fuel in the tank and it started right up.  I would like to purchase a 1776 and performance transmission from someone that knows their stuff.  I liked the look of the Bernie Bergmann engine with the 911 fan kit however all I can find on him on the web is bad news.  I have also looked at the GEX engines and transmissions, any recommendations for an electrical engineer that hasn't worked on a VW since 1975

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Stay away from GEX.  Mid America motorworks  http://www.mamotorwoks.com  seem to sell very good engines and all my transmission come from Ranco  http://www.ranchoperformancetrans.com


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Thank you very much, I will check them out
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Is there anyone else out there that has any other companies that do it all.  I want a New Case and all new parts for the engine.  Where did you get your engines? Any help is appreciated.
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I'd check the Samba for builders, and make doubly sure you check the buyer/seller feedback section for feedback about said builders.

 As mentioned, GEX is universally despised. Bergmann's not a lot better.

Where you at? It may be that there's a good local shop that can take care of you if you really want to do it all in one stop. IMO this is the best way to go. You probably end up paying a bit more, but when they're "down the road" it's easier to get problems fixed than when they're across the country.

You can try Chirco in Tucson AZ. They will build turnkey engines and they're a good group of guys. They also stock transaxles and pretty much anything you need, and will ship it all.

http://www.chirco.com

You can speak to pretty much anyone who answers the phone and they can advise you on what you need and what they can provide.

MAM is ok, CIP1 is ok, Rancho is superb for gearboxes. Andy at Grease Monkey Racing in the Ventura CA area is a great builder. He's got a waiting list right now, but totally worth it.

Be prepared for some sticker shock though. I know what GEX advertises their turnkeys for, and a quality built performance engine from a reputable builder can run 2x that much easily. The difference is that when you get it from a good builder, you're getting an engine that will last a very long time, built and set up to suit your driving style. You're getting quality parts hand-selected to work the best together in your engine, instead of whatever happened to show up on the freight truck from (insert knock-off company here) today.


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Great information!!!  I am in Durango Colorado, No one I trust with my car.
My avatar is my car.  I don't plan on selling it ever.  So I want the best I can find.  The military kept me from ever being around my car for 25+ years so I need all the help I can get to get back the knowledge I had.  Thank you very much for your help.
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Ok guys I just talked to Rancho Performance Transaxles and they are recommending
C.B. Performance for an engine.  Do you have any knowledge about them?
The Rancho Transaxles are what I've decided on, Now I just have to find an engine.
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CB is one of the industry leaders and have been for a long time. I actually didn't know they built engines, I've learned something new today. I'm super picky about my builds, but I'd buy a turnkey from CB any time.

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I never thought it would be so difficult to find an engine.  I have talked to more builders and companies than I ever thought existed over the last 2 weeks, but you have really helped me and kept me looking, for that thank you very much..  Rancho was VERY hot on using the CB engine also.
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If it was me and mind you this is only my opinion. If your engine that you have right now runs and is usable, I would start by buying a few books ... how to hotrod your VW (old but a good read) Gene Berg tech books GB800 and GB801 and of course get a Bentley service manual and then plan and do your own rebuild. Knowing what was put in the engine and how it was built will give you that much more of a feel for your car(if those are the right words for it! LOL) I know that there are some people that don't feel comfortable or don't have the time or place to do this kind of work. But if you plan to always keep the car and have a place to work on it that is what I would do. As far as the trans goes unless you plan to do a lot of them it is not worth the tooling to get in to working on them. Rancho is well known even up here in Alaska so I would suggest them.
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I'm beginning to think your right.  I have a 1934 REO Flying Cloud, its a 2 door conv(only one left in mint working comdition), 1957 T Bird and a 1936 DeSoto  All in show room condition, So I'm able, just lazy, I'm not just there doesn't seem to be enough time in a day.
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Well heck, if you're thinking of doing it yourself, then that's the way to go! I love building my own stuff. At least then I know who's butt to kick if it breaks

CB sells pretty much everything you'd need, in fact, you can get it in a kit and save some pennies too. VW engines are cake to work on compared to something with water jackets, you've got one less system to mess with. As long as you have a machine shop handy that you trust to do VW stuff, the rest is pretty easy. Olspeed's mentioned some very good books. Old or not they're still full of relevant info.

If you go this route, I'm going to strongly suggest that you use an AS41 case and have it opened up for full flow oiling. Your stock case should be an AS41, so you should be good there. Your machine shop can drill and tap the oil galleys for you for the full flow. To go 1776, you'll need to have the heads and the case bores opened out to 90.5mm. Your machine shop can check the saddles for wear and check the thrust while they've got it there for the other work, and if they have to align bore or thrust cut it, they should be able to provide you the correct main bearings for their work. Have them check your crank and see if it needs to be cut, or you can go for a counterweighted crank instead. Better rotating balance, so you get a smoother, better revving engine when you're done.

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Thank you very much, I'm sure I'll have other questions as I go, it's nice to know there are guys like you out there that have been there before.
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Just to revive this topic with new information...

CB has started to do complete kits for the home builder. They look very complete and high quality. And considering what I paid for good parts to rebuild my engine to a 1776 the prices aren't all that bad. I beleive they're called "builder's choice" and they have kits for everything all the way up to a 2332.

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I also have a 73' Super Beetle and just picked it up.  WOuld like to go with a 1776 nice and reliable with enough power to show and go.
I have built a couple before but no tools and ability anymore so this thread made for some informative reading for me.  I figure on picking up a long block and building that out at the local Auto Hobby Center on base and figure I can have it built out in a couple of days without absorbent storage cost.

Years ago I purchased a longblock from Bernie Bergman and had no problems at all but that was about 20 years ago now.  Thanks for informing me that this has changed sorry to hear that and I will check out some of your suggestions prior to making my new purchase

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