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Quick easy question. On my 1968 Std Beetle that I am restoring, I decided to go with a stock 1600DP engine. My current daily driver sports a 1776 with dual 44's. When it comes up in conversations, people say I am "downgrading" and will quickly miss all of the "extra performance and horsepower from a big engine with big carbs." I know I am getting old and my memory is not as good as it used to be, but I seem to remember stock 1600's getting me around just fine. Do you guys think I am making a mistake by going with a stock engine on my new project?  


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Even if you're making a performance "downgrade" I, personally, believe that nothing works in a car like the stock parts it was made with. If it was in there in 68 it should be there now ... not everything has to be about performance. Sometimes it's just nice to have a reliable engine in a reliable driver. Just my two cents.
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dropping from a larger displacement engine with performance parts to a lower displacement engine with stock parts, there will be a noticeable difference. The question you have to ask yourself is whether you want that performance or not. If you're  just looking for a driver and not a pocket rocket, you'll do fine with the 1600. If you are going to miss the extra pep from the larger motor, you might rethink it. I wouldn't actually consider a 1776 to be a big engine, but rather a first upgrade step up. 2L and higher displacements are common on a streeter, and I'd say 2180's where I'd put the demarcator for a "big" engine at now.

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I would trust a 'well built' 1776 as much as a stock engine any day of the week.  My old 1776 took everything I could throw at it.  --Ryan
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I didn't really think a 1776 would be considered a "big engine" either, I was just quoting what was said. I have my "performance engine" so I wanted to make a stocker for my next project. Concerning the "pocket rocket" issues, I seem to recall a stock 1600 with a stock transmission had plenty of low end torque. I figure that is what is going to get me up to speed from a dead stop. It might add a couple of seconds to my 0 - 60 time, but I don't really care about that. So, that leaves top end. Right now, at WOT I can get to 90mph. Never seem to be on a stretch of road where I can really do that on a regular basis anyway. On average, I think the fastest I go regularly is around 70mph. My thoughts are with having one car that sports a 1776 and another that sports a 1600, considering daily traffic, I am not really going to see that much difference. 


Edit--- That sounds like I am trying to rationalize my idea of building a stocker. Truth be told, I built a 1776, now I would like a stocker as well. (With straight pipes, of course. It is a Baja afterall ) People have been giving me a hard time about it, so I figured I would throw it out here for thoughts and ideas.  

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The only difference you'd probably see is when you hit that WOT 90 on a stocker it'll be at redline, where the 1776 would be lower in the power curve. (generally speaking. We all know that's not always true)

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